You better believe he said it! It was awful, and I posted about it back in January when it happened. I've never considered ordering another thing from him since then. Of course, he basically told me to go fly a kite, and that I was lying. And now he tries to hide out and have no website to go on. I guess that's meant to cut down on the "scamming" problems. Who knows?

"It's coitens' fah 'dat guy!"

Not at all to make light of this but that kinda cracked me up. I ain't heard that phrase in a long time!

yeah. Those 1944 movies always get to me...cute...huh? Just waiting to use it...hehe

Oh! Hah! Forgot to add, package STILL didn't arrive today after I req overnight shipping and 4 email exchanges.

curtains.....for him....lol,,,,,,

I guess I'll throw my 2 cents into the experiences pool. The last 2 orders I placed with George were for items he assured me were in stock, and they were my "usual order" that I had consistently placed without any big issue over the year and had probably 7 or 8 successful orders before he went off the deep end.

The stories are long and stupid, but basically he gave me the run around each time for the first week or two after picking up my payment, answering my emails saying he'd "be back asap with the tn#...ok???", but never telling me what was going on and why I hadn't received anything yet. I asked repeatedly if it was a stock issue and if so, told him I could request that he sub for comporable meds that he may have had in stock. Then he stopped aswering my emails all together. I was able to get some more experienced members of the board to inquire about my orders on my behalf and that seemed to work with the first order debacle. So the total wait time for that first one was 4 weeks from the date he picked up my funds.

The next order was stupid of me to place because of his behavior with the the one prior, but I was stupid and gave him the benefit of the doubt that it was just a bad month he was having and I also fell for the lines that certain members posted in his thread saying "just heard from G and he reports that his issues have been fixed" but even this was vague on just what the issues were in the first place.

So by giving him the benefit of the doubt, and believing what the member posted, I took the plunge and placed another one of my usual orders. That one went even worse than the first:

Well you can guess what happened next: the order turned out to be like watching a re-run of the first one, except it was even worse acting and lasted longer. He answered the first few emails during the first week, saying that it was shipped out (a blatant lie) and that same classic line "let me get back to you with the TN#... ok???". Of course, he never got back to me with a TN# because he never shipped. He was just baiting me along to what end I do not know and I no longer care because I'm done forever with ordering from him. And after just 3 days of emails this time, he cut off all contact and wouldn't return any email from any of my email accounts.

Meanwhile these 1 or 2 "special customer posters" in his thread continued to report that it seemed that George back on top of his game and that they were reporting 24 hour turn around time for thier orders. What shocked me the most and really ticked me off was that one of the 24-hour turnaround orders was for the same exact meds as my order!!! And this guy paid some 3 weeks after I did and got it the next day! So I was pretty livid by then. I was sure that I had been selectively chosen to be scammed by him and that I had no other choice but to post in the rip off section for those with less than 200 posts.

Then what do you know - After I put in a rip-off report in the forum for those under 200 posts I heard back from him almost immediately and he had the nerve to reply back saying "OMG,, are you serious??? I had no idea! (BS!!!!) So sorry me let me get you TN# and be back to you asap... ok???" Yeah, like I hadn't already heard that line one too many times before.

I figured that the order was a total loss and I was out almost $800 bucks. The only thing I could do was hope that the rip off report might help to warn other members on the board about my very bad experiences and non delivery.

I really wanted people to know just how twisted his behavior was by dragging me along for all those weeks for this and the prior order that it seemed so unreal, and nothing like the "good old" George that promptly delivered with everything accounted for, on time, and even sometimes with an extra 1 or 2 thrown in. I kind of pictured him laughing while feeding me excuse after excuse... He even added a new excuse that he hadn't used with me before: That my order got shipped by accident to another customer of his and that he was trying to reach that customer so he could get them to mail it back so he could send it back out to me.

According to George a few days later, that customer said they received it and was getting ready to mail it back to George. So George quoted me a new estimate of it being delivered to me within the week. Yet the weeks dragged on. I updated my rip off thread to say that I was now sure there was nothing left I could do and being at 6 weeks from the day he took my money, the hope of ever receiveing was slim to none. But to my surprise, at the end of the 6th week (almost 7 weeks), he delivered. But each product was a few pills short, The #90 count item, he sent #85. The #60 count item, he sent #56 I think. I imagine he was trying to make a point of some kind or something, who knows and I just didn't care anymore.I was just glad I got most of what I paid for and was so happy that I'd never have to go through that ordeal again.

So I will NEVER EVER order from George again. Besides, without a website he is an email only source now and has been for atleast the past 6 months, right? Does anyone know why he is allowed to keep a thread in this forum where a vendor is required to have a website? Do some sites get exemptions for this rule for some reason?

There was nothing unusual about my orders. They were the same 2 items I had always ordered from him and certainly not anything exotic. The worst part of the experience was reading posts from the certain 1 or 2 customers that always reported 24 hour turnaround during my entire experience. Even worsewas that the one guy reported ordering the same meds I ordered. And he was had it delivered the next day while George kept playeing some kind of sick game with me. He dodged the questions I had about why <someuser> was sent the medicines I ordered while I didn't. He simply refused to tell me anything of substance or that would be helpful to me I absolutely do not trust him now, and despite his usual excuses of family sickness and such, he was obviously selectively jerking/scamming me around while doing business as usual with the 1 or 2 customers that he must either have planted here (just a theory, doesn't mean that that's true) or that they must have some special relationship with him that I apparently do not have.


My point is that I think he's a scumbag in my eyes with a twisted mind and not to mention that stupid fake bad english accent he uses to different degrees as needed to feign innocence and/or ignorance depdending on the circumstances. He can speak pretty decent English when he wants to. I have a few emails where he "forgot" to play "me no good speak english" when I pressed him for answers as to what was going on. That's wehn he seems to lay the bad English on extra thick... It's such a joke. He's a jerk, liar, and a scumbag. I didn't have 200 posts when these events happened but now I do so I guess my reports belongs in the his experiences thread since the rip-off thread was taken down after I reporteed

My advice to anyone choosing to order from here, is BUYER BEWARE. I wouldn't do it unless you can tell you're one of the privileged few that still get A+ service from the guy. Otherwise, I'd avoid him like a plague until he cleans his act up, if that's even possible!

Let us know how things turn out for you guys and gals that are in a similar predicament.

This was my largest order yet from him and previously, I've had nothing but RAVE reviews about his service (phpppbh!) and the quality of his meds. I have been very patient and complimented him on many ocassions.

This is like a slap in the face and i feel foolish.

StarHopper, your quotes from him are exactly the same as I have received.

I just want my meds, that's all. Please. I've not been bitchy or whiny during our email exchanges, Just to the point.

Dammit I hope he just comes through whenever!!!

'kay, goodnight!

bc

Thanks for your post...have you tried someone else? Im been with a vendor(NOT THIS ONE ONE) for more than a year,,,and I have not had these problems,,,,I really feel your pain... again its time to move on...I guess all should becareful

Maybe he just wrecked his moped. I think that's all he has left to drive after his 27 other mishaps.

Excellent post Starhopper! Couldn't have said it any better myself. Glad someone else feels the strangeness and craziness of dealing with this jerk! And being lied to right and left.

Yes, I've been using two other vendor with threads in this forum with great success. George had been recommended to me by another member here and his reviews at the time were close to stellar. And the first 7 orders were perfect. He was just as good as the other top choices at the time.

And now it seems one of his loose screws fell completely out out of his head and got lost in his carpet somewhere -- I don't expect him to recover to the way he used to run things. While I know this board has (or should I say "had") a good loyal following for George's services, I think it's time to call the game and cross him off the list as he has bit the dust as far as you can before picking oneself up, announcing his return to his previous level of service and that "he sorry this" and (INSERT LIST OF EXCUSES HERE) and that will be the point I expect he lines up the final set of orders for a nice cashout by doing a scam and run. That's my best guess. I kind of doubt he'll just fade away and slowly let his business die. He's too clever to let that happen, unfortunately for those new to these boards that might get suckered into that trap should he set it up like so many in the past have done.

too funny!

Well its time to speak up...the only weapon we have its WORDS...and you are doing a good job and I got your back...

so did anyone get their stuff sorted? He is not related to the group of other vendors.... so it is possible he is having supply problems and just making up stories

Pkay, that was the most likely explanation I could think of at the time, but when my exact order was sent overnight to another member who frequents this thread while I had been patiently waiting for that same order for more than 3 weeks, I think that's when I realized it was more than just a stock issue, or even if it was, then it meant that he doesn't go by a first come, first serve system. All that considered seems to kill that theory as being the basis for the run-around, and of course that does nothing to account for the bold-faced lies of "It shipped yesterday, my friend... I be back asap with TN# for you... ok???"

Another plausible theory is that he just didn't like me. Well "friend" the feeling is mutual. I don't like you either (not you PKay, that was to George if he's reading this)

No, Star, he will never, and has never, recovered from how he was running his business last year. He lost all his screws for sure!

I FINALLY received my order yesterday. Everything great like it "ustabe" usual. Just wish he would wake up and smell the stimulants and get back on the ball.

Happy you got it finally. So you ordered on Friday and received the next Friday? I was pretty sure G would never rip someone off intentionally now that he's past that one thing. I was thinking of ordering and I was worried last time I was on and read your posts. Glad you didn't outright lose the money though, just stinks that you had the delay.

Yep. Stinks he's now unreliable. Dumb on his part.

Not to get off topic.. but I always found it amusing that he wrote that response of "I be back asap with TN# for you... ok???" Like he was asking if it was ok, like a lost puppy, and at first it seems he would rush to get your tracking number out the second it was picked up. But actually getting the tracking number is a crap shot.

Why not just be like some others and omit the TN part ,.. say "ok, thanks, will ship.." so no one is waiting around for something you might not bother to do.

TN's are so important to us.. as they ease anxiety, verify it is otw, and when it will arrive. Without it people are left wondering. If these guys were reliable 99% of the time like clock work then not such a big deal.. but this type of ordeal is just not that way. As even the most reliable have week long delays out of the blue.

I'm not speaking for or against G. here, just about that line quoted.

Good luck for all who choose this one.

TN...IS Very important...why are you guys going with someone if its a crap shoot? I always get a TN with no sweat...so far.....plus my BI his shipping cost are a bit cheaper

G. has his plus sides too. If he is on a 'good streak' he can't be beat. With his immediate email responses, good nature, and timely service.

It is just that he tends to go in cycles.. awesome ! Then what? huh? what happened?

But I think in the end , for the most part, he ends up getting it done.

Though, dawn, you are correct, imo, that there are *better* options in terms of utter reliability. However, some people feel comfortable with a person they have established a relationship of sorts with, but as the case may be -- sometimes, often, it takes some trial and error before you find the 'best', so to speak. Even then, in this kind of scenario/situation the best can quickly go to the worst in the blink of an eye. These aren't fortune 500 companies we are dealing with.

Just to be clear -- I'm not speaking for or against any of the alphabet. Just putting my 2 cents in on how nothing is certain, and even moreso the best thing anyone can do is to stay current with information here. So you can be confident as possible that whoever you deal with is not having issues and so on.

DB's is invaluable for the community reports which ultimately builds the reputation(s) of these people.

Agree with the statement, as was said earlier when he's on point it's a pleasure to deal w/him. But since all the drama that went on months ago he has not been the same. He's human and if whatever happened took its toll on how he works, one can only hope he gets it back together. Conversations with him were always pleasant and fast turnarounds.

I have been using two of the other BI - spreading orders between both, as not keeping all eggs in the same basket anymore. Both have been flawless so far. A few bumps in the road every now and then, but overall very dependable. I do miss dealing with him, but until things improve I am staying away. All the BI's are a risk, and you either accept it or go elsewhere.

All we can do is hope things improve with him, wish him the best in his trials of life.