heres my situation. I have medical conditions that have obtained me legal prescriptions for at least vicodin which i get when i see my rhuematologist. But there is nearly a six month waiting list to see him, and he writes them, once per visit, with no refills. Now i dont really like him, i live in a small area with little to no choice in doctors we dont have any walk in clinics. I think he under estimates my pain and over estimates my pain tolerance.

Now I go a long time without medication which is getting very irritating.

From what i'm reading on here im up the creek without a paddle as it is impossible to get any legal site to send you any kind of pain killer (vicodin, etc etc) which is a shame, cause i get legal scripts for them.

and the sites i do see, charge hundreds of dollars for consultations? i have no income i live with my parents because of my condition

I cannot afford these consultations and horribly jacked up prices even if they were legit, i pay 20$ for 90 vicodin..

so what should i do? i mean i want to be able to order meds without having to wait months to see my doctor to get another prescription.


i dont trust the illegal sites i know you say some are legit but i have a hard time trusting them, i dont really care that its breaking the law i just dont want to get scammed because i have so little money.


Is there any way i can actually get pain meds without having to pay "consultation fees" i dont need a consultation i already have been diagnosed, seen specialists, had xrays, etc etc. i know they arent face to face its more of a nod and a wink to get meds, which is taking advantage of people.

so i guess my post is a question about, is there any hope for me getting my meds without paying a huge consultation fee, i see hte free ones, but they dont have pain meds. the ones that do are way expensive.

I thought about joining the VIP thing on this site, because it would save money, but not if it doesnt lead to me getting pain meds on a regular basis like i need them, i'm afraid i'd join and then end up getting scammed from some jerks. I ordered once from rxvogue.com and it was fake medicine. even though it was from europe.

Welcome to the board. Read as much as you can and I'm sure someone will help you out. This is not like the other sites you have been on. Lots of good folk on here.

Glad you found the site.I really think you might find some help here.It's a real shame what the DEA has done to those
suffering with pain.

I wish you the best.

My doctor never gave refills . For vicodin however I could call in his office and they would send the prescription to my pharmacy. But after couple months he decided I just had to live with the pain and use Otc. I believe doctors are scared for the dea. Don't want to overprescribe etc. It's annoying. I hope you can get help. Wishing you the best too.

Well, there are some threads in the pain forum that discuss getting a regular doctor to treat you. Here are a couple of examples of possibly useful information:
http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/topics/1025209/1
http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/topics/1050801/Re_tolerance_level#Post1050801

well i spent a few hours reading on here and all i could find was places that did have pain meds, charged at least 100$ for "consultation". which i cannot afford, on top of that most of the scripts i get with 90 vicodin are 20 bucks, on the net they are like 500$. i just cant afford that.

My family doctor flat out refuses to give me anything narcotic for pain instead thinking that ibuprofen helps. which, even with vicodin taking 5 a day still i have problems with pain and mobility.

the sad part is, all these asshats that take advantage of people make it hard for people like me to determine whats legit, i have no qualms getting them from overseas, if they are as advertised and affordable.

my problem i have is the ones i determine to be legit and have good ratings, end up being extremely expensive. and without a job i just cant go there. I mean when i get on disability maybee i can but 500$ for something i pay 20$ for is ridiculous, and those are street prices basically i still dont see how they make money unless they pay what i do, which means someone down the line has to get them for cheap. but those prices are insane.


I mean its causing mental problems already i see a shrink and they actually recommended finding someone to give me things such as adderall for adhd and xanax for anxiety and such but i just cannot even afford all these at cheap prices, i only get one at a time which makes my health suffer.

i'm just wondering about recommendations, i mean everything i found here is good advice, just unffordable for me. are there any places, international or whatever that doesnt charge 500$ for 90 vicodin? i mean i'd have to save up for 100$ and that would only get me like.. not even a weeks worth and that wouldnt even cover the "referral".

from what i read no place in the united states sells narcotics over the net, i just want to make sure this is true, is it? so i'm looking at overseas? thats my only option that i can see but then again the price kills me. dont know what to do really except wait another 4 months to see one of my specialist doctors.

they are exceedingly stingy with any kind of scripts which they dont care about me, they care about covering their own [censored], which is what makes me mad and led me to here. there is only one specialist that i need in my whole area, so i have no choice of going to another doctor. there isnt any. and general practitoners know nothing of my disease so they refuse to fill out narcotics scripts for something they know nothing about.

I guess I'm not sure what the question is because you answered it in your post.

You can use a referral service, pay a couple hundred for the visit and then the price for the prescription (whatever your pharmacy charges) and then every month that doctor would call you, discuss your condition and call in another prescription. It could cost you about $200 a month in all but that's super cheap nowadays.

Then there's the illegal sites where you can buy virtually anything if you have the money, but you stated you didn't want to pay $500 for 90 vicodin.

So that pretty much leaves you with the International sites where you can get DHC for a pretty decent price. Stronger than codeine, not as strong as vicodin. Many people here use it because it's one of the few options left in pain control. Quite a few reputable International sites sell it, and you can get delivery in anywhere from a week to a month depending on the company. Again though, if you're having trouble scrapping up $100, you're going to have a hard time getting anything.

There's also Ultram, that you can get from the US in a prescription bottle overnight but you would pay more than $100 for it too.

If your doctor is worried about his license, ask for a referral to a pain clinic. Many of us here go to one. Usually it takes a referral from a PCP or specialist to get in.

Or the last option - tell your doctor that 90 pills every 6 months isn't helping your quality of life at all. Explain all the things you can't do because of the pain and ask if you can call once a month and get him to call in a refill or have him put refills on your vicodin.

Honestly, there's just not much else we can do for the price point you have. Unfortunately, pleading with a drug dealer to sell your medicines cheaper because you are broke just doesn't do anything. They don't care about you as a person; only your money. They have plenty of customers and giving one cheap medicine is not going to happen.

I'd try out either the DHC or Ultram, and perhaps get a script from the doctor that wanted to give you xanax or something like that. Hopefully between the two you might get some pain relief.

You are going to receive a dozen personal messages when you get 25 posts and I suggest you delete them all. It will be from people who just want to help and sell you some vicodin really cheap. It's a scam and it's done to virtually every new member here who is vocal about their pain.

Good Luck and stay away from people who join just long enough to offer 80mg oxycontin for $25 because we have people doing it now, members are falling got it and they've gotten scammed...

Have you thought of trying maybe DHC. I know you can get that from overseas and people say it is very helpful with pain. I have not tried it, so I don't know for sure, but I have read that many people have great success with it. The cost is much less than the B & I places, but still not as cheap as your script. Do some research on DHC (dihydrocodeine) and see if you think it might help some!

I feel for you! It has taken me YEARS of trying to suffer, self medicating and many other roads to get to the right Dr. Even then, I have to do many other things to get my script each month. My pain is legit, but like so many others, finding the Dr. to stand behind you is very hard. Best of luck to you!

The advice that Lynx posted is all you need to know. All your options are laid out there. I think your best hope is to talk to the Dr. that you have now. You can not buy what you are looking for at the price you are willing to pay, anywhere on the internet. If someone tells you different, it's a scam to get your money.

What may be confusing the OP is perhaps reading very old threads about past years -- before the powers that be took a 20 cent pill designed for moderate to moderately severe pain and turned it into a black market commodity.

Back then you could have gotten relief for just a little more than $100.00

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Also the false promises you see in spam emails and deceptive websites are just that, as others have pointed out here.

False promises.

p2a

Just my 2 cnts. i know you mentioned that there aren't many dr's around. Maybe you can go to the nearest family practician? And have your medical history with you and explain your situation. You might get a prescription and the next time you can do it over the phone? So you don't need to drive up anymore?

And I agree with the suggestion to try to talk to your current dr. I would at least start from there.

well i ordered dhc back when i had a job from rxvouge.net or something like that, was about 100$ for 20.. i took them all in a few hours and got no relief so i dont feel that is good, plus vicodin barely work anymore even though i go at least half a month without any, when i do get refills i still have a high tolerance, its very strange how that works.

I was just curious as to my options cause there are so many different places, was hoping there was like one super cheap legit one but i guess everything is out of my price range. i dont have a job, living with a single mom, last thing i want is her to pay half her paycheck for a few weeks of medicine.

I thought maybee there were people out there that might like to help people instead of take advantage of them. Guess that kind of thinking only exists in small towns in the south like i live in.

at 80$ a pop for a doctor visit i really cant shop around for one that will prescribe me what i need and when i did have a job and was going to the general practitioners, they would always say one time then you go to a specialist blah blah controlled substance speech.

I didnt know about the prices thats why i asked, i thought 500$ was highway robbery but i guess people pay it. i mean.. if i pay 20$ for it, why would i pay 500$? I mean i'm so used to dealing with the pain that 480$ saved for my family seems worth it even though i'm miserable.

i've tried the fake opioids like Tramadol(Ultram etc).. worked for a few days then was like taking tylenol. i mean they lasted like.. maybee 30 minutes. i guess i have a high tolerance or wierd biological system cause when i take ambien or any sleep meds it actually makes me not sleep and wake up, aside from xanax which actually makes me sleep, even tylenol pm and stuff do the exact opposite. I have 800 mg ibuprofen that does nothing. I mean, i know how narcotics work by blocking pain receptors, thats fine, i dont care if it doesnt cure me and is addictive as long as i dont feel like horse [censored]] i really dont care how bad it is for me. I got to the point of taking 10 vicodin a day, at least.. the 7.5 /750 ones.. which probably killed my liver.. but at least i slept.

so thanks for the advice it looks like since i'm broke i might as well just wait until i get disability even then its only like 700$ a month.

its probably barely possible to live on that without medication but basically one consultation and 90 day supply would eat my whole disability check.. so its either move out, or live with my mom forever. which icant cause i feel bad already.

I was just asking whats the cheapest legit prices around for u who didnt understand, like.. 500$ for 90 vicodin, is that the norm? i could see paying 100$ or something. or if i could get some oxycodone and not have to get 90 of them, but i'm sure they are impossible to get as i've not even seen them on anything but scam sites. and chances are they are way expensive from the overseas ppl.

If you are talking about buying pills from the Mexican Internet drug dealers, the "norm" wouldn't be anything like $500 for 90 Vicodin.
It would be more like $630.00 for 90 (plus shipping and money transfer expense).
Then again, they also sell 80mg OxyContin pills. But for only 45 of them that'll run you around $2700.00 plus, plus.
You could try to buy oxycodone or hydrocodone from some foreign web site but those pills will likely be fake and the contents mysterious.
That pretty much leaves you with only one real alternative. Find a pain management doctor somewhere around where you live and try to negotiate payment on a sliding scale until you are on disability.
The so-called "face to face" doctors you are investigating seem to be very flaky and, as you've discovered, very expensive. Here today, gone tomorrow.
You sound extremely young to be disabled but still living with your mother. Are you still in school?

Well I wish you the best. Hopefully your dr will listen and help you out. The prices are what they are for Many reasons not perse taking advantage of you.

Vioxx worked wonders for me for pain but was taken off the market. I think there is still a version of that out there. It really helped for pain and didn't make me drowsy or the "high" feeling.

Believe me mmj, i know xactly what ur going thru. I have been suffering from spinal stenosis for over a year, and all my doc wants me to have is Tramadol. I took them at first and the pain didnt go away at all. Not to mention i was 10mg og lexapro at the time and realized that Tramadol and a depressant don't mix. I had to tell the doctor that !! That idiot could have given me a stroke at the least or i could have died from that. I guess these doctors need to put their feelings and judgements aside and REALLY, TRUELY look at the patients and realize that we are in pain. She looks at me like i'm a damn drug addict, and is "SO" worried about me getting addicted to something, she wants everyone to take tylonol. What an idiot. I guess they have to be in pain for someone else to be in pain, to actually prescribe anything that will work for our pain.

no i'm not in school i got my bachelors in 08 and am almost thirty but i cant work cause of auto immune disease, which are incurable and only get worse with age. And as far as doctors go, i mean i still need an MRI but i cant afford it. they are like 1000$ and i have no insurance, government loves to deny disability for conditions like mine, but somehow feel inclined to give it to people with depression? my only option is to go to court which i will I already got a lawyer who thinks I'll get it, until then I'll just have to suffer.

I'm sick of doctors looking at me like i'm some kind of heroin addict when i mention pain medication or something. they just dont understand anything other than their paychecks. I might have money for medication (or my mother would) if i didnt have to pay almost 100$ for 15 minute visit with him to ask me what hurt and where and then do nothing about it. granted i'm taking humira which is like 1500$ a month my doctor got it for me for free which im thankful for, it slows the progression but i cant tell its done anything for the pain.

I heard indian (dot indian not feather indian) are good about prescribing pain meds and theres one here i just have to save up for the visit. I do random chores for people for spare money since i cant hold down a 9 to 5 job.

I think my doctor thinks i'm just a ungreatful weakling or something for asking for pain meds after he already got me humira, but theres no cure and if it doesnt work it doesnt work its not my fault.

i'm only 28 and dealing with it as best i can, my age is probably the main factor for getting denied disability, the reviewers cant even pronounce my disease much less know what it does to someone. bone growth on your spinal chord, kinda painful. I figured there might be some nice doctors that dont take advantage of people but i guess not. maybee when i get disability i can afford the mexican stuff.

so there is nothing in 90 day supplies under 500$ is what i'm reading. though luck i guess. i mean vicodin is weak to me but it still helps more than nothing and anything cheaper would probably be weaker. but i'll keep looking.

got an email from a company that said their monthly fees are less if you pay by check instead of credit card. i dont trust any of them really.

I know your suffering but please don't make random UNTRUE statements such as people with depression get disability easier than others. That is not true unless they are truly depressed in a very delibilitating way or with psychosis and even then it's just as hard as any other condition if not more difficult. Not only that, but the vast majority of disability claims go to court. So you're not special or being singled out.

It's also no fun to read stuff like Indians are more likely to prescribe pain meds. I got one of those in my town so I'm saving up to see them....This is insulting, stereotypical and simply untrue. In fact, it's even more insulting knowing you have a college degree. Usually universities, and even community colleges, are good about beating the ridiculouslness of racial stereotyping out of students' brains.

Ask your rheum about switching to another biologic. My son takes Enbrel and it works really well for his arthritis. Different biologics work better for different people. You can also ask about adding methotrexate injections in addition to the biologic. Again, my son took mtx along with the enbrel and the combo put him in enough of a remission that we were able to stop the mtx all together recently.

Good luck. RA (or JRA, as my son has) sucks.

Why are you taking this so personal? Im sure he did not mean like it sounded..thats my take on this...I wish Soho would read this post....where are You Soho?

I don't quite know what you mean by me taking it personally. I'm also wondering why you are asking for SOHO. I would expect any comment from her reagarding my concerns to be similiar. Maybe nicer, but the content similiar. To help clarify, these are the specific statements that are MISINFORMED and RACIST........

government loves to deny disability for conditions like mine, but somehow feel inclined to give it to people with depression? my only option is to go to court which i will I already got a lawyer who thinks I'll get it, until then I'll just have to suffer.


I heard indian (dot indian not feather indian) are good about prescribing pain meds and theres one here i just have to save up for the visit..............

Why does everything sound so Racist? As far as Soho...she has a degree, and more insight....enough said

There are other people here like Martind who have much information to offer, and although I appreciate your comments about me, Dawn, I really passed up the OP's post to begin with because I saw the number of posts and knew the info she was probably looking for would be in the BI threads.

No one can help a person who can't afford to see different types of specialists, there's just no adequate income. Either she applies for medicaid or not. That still won't guarantee anything she wants, except some insurance. The OP's story is long and winding, of course her age has nothing to do with getting disability. The state office of disability where she lives makes that decision, but she would need to have accumulated all her doctor's reports, recommendations and test results. Including hospitalizations and severity of illness.

All I can say is that her current needs seem to be finding a doc to look at her test results and provide her with meds or treatments that can help her. Or go online for meds, and of course that's expensive.

What can be said? It doesn't matter to me what her level of education is or her biases. To me, she's a brand new poster asking for extensive help on the internet, and I don't see much more that I could add. You folks have been helpful to her and I don't know how much effort she's actually putting into getting what she needs. Saving for an Indian doctor who would prescribe pain pills? Maybe she knows one, I don't.

That wasn't racist.I take my elderly mother to an Indian doctor, and he bends over backwards to try to help with any problem she has.

He always takes the time to listen, and if he thinks it will
help, he'll give her anything she asks for.

Most Indian doctors tend to be more compassionate..imo

Soho. Thanks for saying what I feel a lot nicer than I sometimes articulate. To be honest, I guess it's hard to realize and see daily how many people are suffering and the sad reality of needing help and trying to get it in today's world. The maze is horrid and otherwordly at times (I'm thinking about phone conversations with SSI), and there's a lot of ducks that need to line up. In the meantime there isn't really much that can be done to alleviate the suffering.

As for my post, I wasn't just talking about race. I was also talking about depression and the misunderstandings we have about people and how those kinds of untrue statements can hurt people even in little ways. So it seems respectful to give some thought to how people use or share words in a public forum.

Just a couple of thoughts and then I'll leave the subject alone. I'm starting to feel that perhaps this was a plea to the group to please send this person some free vicodin or stronger or just sell them for a $1 or $2 each. It was my initial thought but I can be a cynic so I tried to be helpful and ignore that part of my brain.

Then I see Phrases like "I thought maybee [sic] there were people out there that might like to help people instead of take advantage of them. Guess that kind of thinking only exists in small towns in the south like i live in." and "plus vicodin barely work anymore even though i go at least half a month without any, when i do get refills i still have a high tolerance, its very strange how that works." when I thought the problem was that he/she was getting one script for 90 pills every 6 months without getting refills. And how are your pills lasting half a month when you get 90 every 6 months? I did just wake up so I could have missed some vital information.

Then there's references to going to a local doctor to get pain meds when we all know he isn't going to get vicodin or stronger for less than $100 and the doctor's visit is going to be at least that much. THEN there's state/federal medical insurance. I know because my daughter who's in school and has a baby gets it. All doctor's visits for her and the baby are covered as are the prescriptions. If she needs pain medicine for something they give it to her. She isn't the only person I know of who uses the government's insurance.

I guess I feel some parts don't add up. I wanted to help out, but the overall theme seems to be "I'm poor and want vicodin or stronger for less than $100 but since no one here is offering it to me I guess you guys aren't as generous and giving as a Southern. (and dude, I'm a Southern so you need to back up on that one)

The tone of all the messages seem to be "I'm not listening! I'm not listening! If you aren't going to find a site that'll sell me what everyone else here wants but for 1/10th of what everyone else pays then I'm just ignoring your post."

BTW,There is no longer a VIP section and even when it was there it wasn't going to lead you to a site to get a monthly supply of vicodin for $20 or $30. In the heydays of vicodin without a script, you could get a bottle of 90-120 a month for about $199, then the NROPs came along and you could get a bottle every month if you had $300 to pay for the consult and another $200 for one medicine and the fee for COD or off of your credit card.

I apology if this seems rough on you. But I keep reading all your comments and I get the same impression no matter how I read it. No one on this site is going to be nice enough to you to sell you their own medicine for $1 a pill or less because we NEED our medicine and this site is not "How to sucker people out of their medicines by being pitiful".

Get government assistance, get the MRI you need and get referred to the proper doctor for your problem or ask your doctor who sometimes gives you refills (later posts) and sometimes not (earlier posts) to start giving you refils every month.

Nah Dawn. Try to help out. I reached out so to speak but I can't e-mail the person or they won't contact me. I'd like to help but, oh well......

I thought EXACTLY the same thing Lynx. I also thought that although in own's experience Indian doctors may be more compassionate, it is technically a racist statement to equate race w/a predisposition to behave in a certain manner.

And disability, well we all know what a uphill battle that is for everyone who needs it. But I do have an internet friend (need to email her) who finally got hers after 4 (?) years of waiting and appealing. She found a lawyer who worked on commission w/was the only way she could afford him.

But to give the orginal OP the benefit of the doubt, s/he just sounds really frustrated and I don't blame him. Pain is horrible when untreated. I hope he continues to work w/in the system as poor as it is in so many ways and finds some public assistance w/his pain.

Meon

i feel your pain
i hate these bogus consultation fee

seems silly but we have to pay unless you buy from an IOP i guess.

That's riciculous. Chinese doctors are the best!

first off i'm not racist, i wwas told indian doctors prescribe pain meds more freely than others BY MY THERAPIST. sterotypes exist for a reason, if there is one about indian doctors i didnt know, its just words i heard from a clinical therapist if you cant beleive/trust your therapist then who can you trust to recommend these things?

second, dont attack me based off forum posts.

my 90 day supply doesnt even last a month cause i sleep 2 hours and take more than i'm supposed to BECAUSE OF TOLERANCE. when you know nothing of my disease you have no right to tell me how much of whatever i should take. If you are awake 20 out of 24 hours then you will take more to get some comfort. i'd love to skateboard, snowboard and do all those things, but right now i'm pretty sedintary because i have to be, otherwise i'd be even worse off. having a disease that causes other diseases blows.

third, i'm not trying to get ANYTHING For free, but charging that much for medicine that is so cheap, is taking advantage of peoples situations, period.

fourth, depressed people can get out of bed without help. I have family who are on disability for depression and its frustrating especially when i've been diagnosed with ADHD, depression and OCD. so stop talking like you know everything please, you dont.

fifth, insurance, i cannot get medicaid until i get on disability, there is no such thing as free insurance otherwise. I have a 5000$ deductible, which cant meet so i dont even go to the doctor unless its a medical necessity. its like 100$ a month, yeah my mother pays for it and its for catastrophic situations, like hospitilizations.




I know i cant change the system but I felt compelled to speak up as to how bogus it seems for people like me who legitimately need them when there are people who use them recreationally end up hurting truly suffering people. which im not accusing anyone of, but i know they are there. i'm not trying to be pitiful or get anyone to sell me anything for cheap, i'm just stating facts. I could be a lot more patronizing about my suffering but i'm not cause i know nobody wants to hear it so stop making all these hurtful accusations about me when you know nothing other than a few paragraphs of what i decide to tell you. try being 28 and going from an active sports life to not being able to do anything you enjoy in a matter of 5 years.


as for the person who recommended enbrel, my cousin is actually on it and he says hes doing good, but hes a lawyer with insurance that can afford it, i applied for free assistance with enbrel but humira was the only one i could get for free so its the only one i take

its not that i dont take your guys advice, i've read everything i could on this forum but the conclusions i make is that i cannot afford it, so yeah i'm going to be frustrated, but not with you, with the way things work. Trust me i've researched, asked people.

my doctor made me sign a peice of paper that stated i would not seek any other pain treatment while he is treating me.
so i'm kinda legally bound and afraid to seek other doctors help. i dont want to get sued, even if i did all he could get was a ps3.